Model Ski Area (Netherlands)

[FireFighter]

Hi everyone,

Few years ago I made a topic about my model ski area in the Netherlands,
using one PB80 with a simple electrical system and RIGI gondolas.

I broke down the old 'Pendelbahn' and created a complete mountain in my garden with 4 ropeways on it:

- Aerial tramway summer 2015
- 2-er chairlift autumn 2015
- 6-er chairlift winter 2015
- 2S ropeway 2016


Here are some pictures of the mountain in 2015:


(mountain without ropeways)


(information sign)


(snow canon)

[margau]

Hi!
Looks pretty cool.

About the tink with Controlling via Network, do you have thinks like "Seillageüberwachung" implemented,
if the rope derailed when its windy etc.

margau

[FireFighter]

Hi!
Looks pretty cool.

About the tink with Controlling via Network, do you have thinks like "Seillageüberwachung" implemented,
if the rope derailed when its windy etc.

margau

Hi,

Thanks for your reaction

There are few warning inputs:
- motor temperature high
- rope not in place (using a tilt sensor)
> when the angle changes too much it will give a +5V signal
- emergency stop

Regards,
Jon

[FireFighter]

Hi,

Here I have an old picture, today I use plastic/fake grass, but I started with real grass.
I was really a disaster, because it costs a lot of time to cut it.


(lower side: plastic grass | upper side: real grass)

[Petz]

Hello and nice to see your pictures; i´m happy to see another model builder with great results and much ambition...

@Petz > I am looking for a RIGI DUO bull wheel, do you have one in stock?

LGB - or Rigi parts i never had in stock. But if you need a second example of the yellow bullwheel that you are using at the 2CLF this could be an Jägerndorfer ATW part.
Please check if the inner groove diameter (without the rubber inlay ring) is 100 mm and the outer one 114 mm; in this case i would have one piece in stock from a scrapped JC ropeway station.

Please send me a PN with your address if you would need the part cause i haven´t stored it anymore; probably had been "gone" with my old crashed harddisc many years ago...

[FireFighter]

Hi everyone,

@Markus thanks again for the bullwheel

For my 2-seater chairlift I have to create about 6 (maybe 8 ) chairs.
Does anyone know how to create some nice looking and functional
chairs? I want to use a JC klem to attach the chair to the rope.

And are opitec wheels good enough when I use a JC klem?

If anyone has some photos or a drawing please show me.

Thanks,
Jon

[Petz]

Pleased to help.

For chairs pictures or complete chairs please ask my friend Jochen

http://www.alpinforum.com/forum/memberl ... ile&u=1507

cause he build wonderful double chairs and i used his skills sometimes in the past as supplier for lifts i had built.

Direktlink

Direktlink


I think it would be much more simple if you use JC sheave batteries (can be bought as six pack of four pulley batteries - JC50010 ) cause when you cut off the mounting part and drill a hole in the middle of the balancer they look rather good; also you have the possibility to lengthen them with an additional brass balancer like i did for Af - collegue Andreas´s double tower.

Direktlink


Important is to fit the JC - pulleys with 10x1 mm rubber inlay rings so thet the pulley rope groove get less deep.

Also the Opitech pulleys needs 8 x 1,5 mm rubber inlay rings cause the rope groove is also too deep to.
I will send you a rubber inlay fitted Jägerndorfer sheave battery for testing with the bullwheel package too.

[FireFighter]

Hi everyone,

Here a video of my old surface lift. I broke it down last summer.

Direktlink



And here a few pictures of the mountain by night.

[Petz]

Pleased to help and i like seeing your working progress. That would be a really nice little skiing area with a wonderful landscape too.

[FireFighter]

Hi everyone,

Here an update of my 2CL, with my own chairs.
I am currently working on the valley station.


(mountain station, lower room contains the garage)


(mountain station with lights)


(mountain station placed on the mountain)


(valley station 3D drawing)

[Petz]

Well done and i like your attractive buildings very much.

May i show you a new prototype for storing cabins and chairs; this is a so called "flat flap chain" (if the translator found the correct words... ) type 06 B-1-M2 that i bought from ZF (Zahnradfabrik Friedrichshafen) running on plastic chain wheels driven by a little 12 V DC gear motor. I widened one hole at each flap up to 5 mm diameter with a tungsten carbide drill so the Jägerndorfer clamps will be hooked exactly in the holes with their little noses - maybe an idea for copying...

Direktlink

[FireFighter]

Hi Petz!

Thanks for your reply, I saw your video on YouTube!
I think it is a great system but I want to make my 2S
with a fully automatic garage. I am currently working on CAD
drawings for it, I will post them when they are ready.

Where did you buy the chain and gear wheels? Looks great!

Regards,
Jon

[Petz]

I thought at your 2CL storage



when posting my video cause it maybe would be possible to use it for
that purpose too...

Chain:

https://www.maedler.de/product/1643/161 ... -einseitig

Plastic chain wheels:

https://www.maedler.de/product/1643/161 ... b-1-38x732

This is the smallest of the available chain types.

[FireFighter]

Hi Petz!

That's a great idea! I will make a 2D CAD drawing for it this week.

How much do you want for 3 chain wheels (1 with motor),
60 cm chain and 6 positions to clamp a JC chair to the chain?

If you want you can send me a PM about it.

Thanks!
Jon

[Petz]

John; tomorrow i will send you a private message for the details and now you get a first PN with a videolink showing the other circumstances of the model chairlift too.

[FireFighter]

Hi everyone,

Here I will show you some pictures about the production of a stair, placed
on the 2-seater chairlift mountain station. The stair is made of copper that
I soldered together. After that I painted it silver (2 layers of paint).


Step 1, soldering:



Step 2, after sanding and degreasing:


Step 3, painting:


Step 4, the result:



Hope you guys like it!

Regards,
Jon

[FireFighter]

Hi everyone,

My Pendelbahn is running! And it works fine!
I used a windscreen motor, controlled by a Siemens Logo PLC,
that communicates with a domotica module. By this module
I am able to control the ropeway by internet, using my mobile
Phone or laptop for example.

For back-up I made an emergency stop on the backside
of the valley station. This switch stops the ropeway and turns
on the emergency lighting + buzzer.

The ropeway has the following functions:
-> start/stop
-> RPM + and RPM -
-> direction
-> automatic mode on/off
-> worklights on/off
-> alarm buzzer on/off

I also placed a picture of a refurbished JC station

Next projects: finishing the JC ropeway and creating a 2CL (before the winter..)


(this photo shows the valley and mountain station)


(valley station)


(valley station, I like the TUV logo)


(controlling the ropeway by Iphone)


(electronics in the valley station)


(mountain station)


(motor in the mountain station)


(detail in the mountain station)


(detail in the mountain station)


(the refurbished JC ropeway station)


(I also placed a LED in the pole)


(the 6-er chair fits perfectly)


Ps. I placed a video of my old surface lift in an old post above

[krimmler]

Nice model ski area, looks good !

[Petz]

I totally agree and the only proposal would be to widen the 6Cld´s passenger access a bit to ensure that six persons are able to reach each chair...

[Ram-Brand]

^^ I think,that is the summer entry.

[niknak]

Nice SkiArea

[FireFighter]

^^ I think,that is the summer entry.

Yep that's right! I am still not sure how to create a nice winter entrance, because I do not have
much space on the backside of the valley station. The waiting line can only be placed on the
side of the station. Any ideas?

[Petz]

Maybe you have the possibility to transfer the entry to the other station´s side; so you would be able to use it as a combined entry and exit for pedestrians in summer and widen it for winter to simulate a 90° entry underneath the bullwheel for skiers.

[FireFighter]

Maybe you have the possibility to transfer the entry to the other station´s side; so you would be able to use it as a combined entry and exit for pedestrians in summer and widen it for winter to simulate a 90° entry underneath the bullwheel for skiers.

Hmm sounds like a good idea! I will try it before the winter starts Thanks!

[FireFighter]

Hi guys,

I have been working on a few things the last weeks:

-> moving the PB80 mountain station (it will be placed 1m further away from the valley station next week)
-> mounting of an IP camera in the mountain station of the PB80 (so I can control and see the ropeway from my Iphone)
-> finishing my 2-seater chairlift (pictures when it's operational, hopefully in 12/2015)
-> updating the mountain with more detail and rocks

For the winter I want to create a snow canon according to: http://alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=26958
We have cold winters in the Netherlands, but barely snow, that's why I want to figure out if this works fine. I am only wondering
what kind of problems I can expect? Becuase snow making is a very accurate proces and I don't want to spend money for nothing

Here some pictures of last weekend when I placed cement on the upper part of the mountain.
If you have a good look you will notice the ski tunnel. I want to add more detail this weekend,
think about hiking trails, rocks, etc...





Regards,
Jon